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March 12, 2009
Eight Complaints about Watchmen That Are Hard to Dismiss
Posted by CoolerKing in Features, Lists

To begin, before the full-on flame assault commences, we should say upfront that we really, really wanted to like Watchmen. We love the original book, we definitely liked most of director Zack Snyder's previous stuff (Dawn of the Dead and 300 were fun), and we flat-out adored all of the advance material we saw - the trailers, the posters, the viral marketing campaign, complete with fake newscasts and 80s-era videogames... there was a lot to enjoy. Then we saw the movie. And, to quote Rorschach, "Hurm." (Or, in the words of the snarky online masses, "Meh.")

Watchmen definitely doesn't deserve some of the harsher criticism it's received - well, it does deserve SOME - but, on the flip side, it definitely doesn't deserve the level of unquestioning and uncritical nerd love that's been angrily stomping around the internet lately, daring commentators to say otherwise. Watchmen is a story about an imperfect world and its imperfect defenders, so perhaps it's almost fitting that the best word to describe the film is "imperfect." If anything, it has us at MovieRetriever convinced (more than ever) that adaptation needs to be more than just bringing visuals to life or reenacting scene after scene exactly as it appeared in the original. Rather, adaptation needs to be about getting the character, mood, and tone of the work correct first, and everything else is just gravy. We would've traded one moment of honest-to-God, palpable Cold War dread for all the Mars scenes in the world.

We're so convinced of the film's oddly flawed nature that, even if you liked the movie and disagreed with our review, there are still some fundamentally screwy aspects of Watchmen that we're willing to bet that not even the most die-hard of fanboys can't say crossed their minds. As such, here are eight of our main complaints about Watchmen that we're finding hardest to dismiss. (Warning: Some SPOILERS may follow, but we'll try to keep them to a minimum.) Please, if you have smoking gun arguments for why we're crazy for harping on these issues - and there's more, believe us, we're not even going to get into Malin Akerman - post a comment below and tell us what we're missing.

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8. What Was the Deal with the Music?

Admit it. More than once during Watchmen, you laughed at one of the songs Zack Snyder chose to underscore a scene and NOT for a good reason. It's a shame since Snyder starts off so well, with Bob Dylan's "Times They Are a Changin'" effectively accompanying the film's fantastic title sequence (best part of the movie). Granted, using that song to score a montage where you literally watch the times-a-changin' IS a bit on the nose, but it's forgivable (and, yes, we do know that the Dylan song is referenced in the comic, but the point is still valid). What isn't forgivable is the director's awkward, borderline-embarrassing use of other pop ballads in either strange or clichéd-as-hell places. Simon & Garfunkel's "The Sound of Silence" for a funeral? WOW. Never heard that one before. (Surprised he didn't use "Danny Boy.") And why would Snyder use Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" for a sex scene, particularly since it's perhaps THE most insanely over-used song in movie and TV history? (It was used in Shrek, for Pete's sake.) And what was the deal with blaring "99 Luftballons" during Dan and Laurie's quiet dinner? Is this The Wedding Singer where we constantly have to remind the audience that we're in the 1980s? One wonders why they didn't just show us the Comedian shooting J.R. Ewing from the grassy knoll.

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But it was the awkward matching of lyrics to on-screen action that was really the worst. Playing "All Along the Watchtower" just so you can have the lyrics "Outside in the cold distance / A wild cat did growl / Two riders were approachin' / And the wind began to howl" match up to Nite Owl and Rorschach (two riders) making a crash-landing in harsh Antarctica (cold distance/wind howling) is so very lame. But nothing beats the muzak version of "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" playing during a scene featuring a character (we'll be spoiler friendly) who, in fact, wants to rule the world. We're sure that Snyder thought that was pretty cute, but, man, it just reeks of obviousness and trying too hard. We halfway expected REM's "It's the End of the World as We Know It" to play constantly over the last reel of the movie.

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7. What Was with Rorschach and the Meat Cleaver?

RORSHACH
 

One of the most gruesome scenes in Watchmen is watching the vigilante Rorschach take a meat cleaver to the head of a child murderer over and over and OVER again. It's violent, strangely gory, stupidly CGI-ed (it looks faker than Dr. Manhattan), and didn't really disturb audiences as much as it made them say "Eww." But here's the thing - that scene ISN'T in the original graphic novel. In Watchmen the book, Rorschach handcuffs the killer to a radiator, sets the house on fire, and walks out while the guy dies horribly OFF-PANEL. Watchmen is a violent enough story as is (pregnant women getting shot, people exploding), so why did Snyder feel the need to generically generate a "shocking" moment that's not in the book? And for what end? The story is filled with enough genuine shocks and sobering violence, so why add a scene straight out of a slasher movie "just because"? It accomplishes nothing.

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6. What Happened to Richard Nixon's Face?

NIXON
 

Maybe it's unfortunate that Watchmen came out just a few months after Frost/Nixon, in which Frank Langella brought Tricky Dick to life with a bare minimum of make-up, but dear lord, Watchmen's version of Richard Nixon looked like a Silly Putty truck exploded on his face. Seriously, Mickey Rourke wore less prosthetics in Sin City and, as a result, Snyder's Nixon looks like one of those Spitting Image puppets from the 1980s. (Maybe Snyder was making an intentional allusion to Genesis' 1986 "Land of Confusion" video, in which the SI puppets act out Ronald Reagan starting World War III. And, now that we think about it, we're surprised that Snyder didn't play that song during the War Room scenes.) And don't get us started on the make-up hack job that turned the gorgeous Carla Gugino into the weirdest-looking old lady this side of Sharon Stone.

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5. Why Is Smoking Suddenly Worse Than Sex, Violence, or Genocide?

COMEDIAN
 

Sometimes political correctness is a funny animal. Apparently, Warner Brothers was fine with copious male nudity (more on that later), blood and guts, and some of the most anti-social behavior ever, but smoking? That's where their tolerance ends. Aside from a few quick scenes of the Comedian (looking as demonic as possible) chomping on a cigar, all of the other smoking references throughout the story have been excised. Were you wondering why Malin Akerman seemed so surprised when she accidentally ignited the flame-thrower on Nite Owl's ship? ("I pressed the wrong button"? It had a flame on it, what did you think it was?) Well, that scene makes a lot more sense in the comic when you realize that Laurie was looking for a cigarette lighter at the time. Thank god she didn't press the button with the missile on it.

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4. Why Did EVERYBODY Have Super-Powers?

NITE OWL
 

One of the bigger thematic issues in Watchmen is watching how everyone in the world reacts to having a real-life, nigh-omniscient Superman in their midst. Dr. Manhattan is the planet's only REAL superhero - i.e., with powers beyond the abilities of normal humans - while the other masked heroes are just guys with masks on who either a). have trained themselves to be excellent combatants or b). have the cash to buy lots of wonderful toys. However, in Zack Snyder's version of Watchmen, apparently, all of the masked vigilantes are living in The Matrix because they can punch through walls, float up ladders like they're flying, and kick their enemies hard enough to send them into the magical world of slow motion. In the book, it's supposed to be insanely impressive that the still-human Ozymandias might be fast enough to even attempt catching a bullet, but, during the Comedian's opening fight scene, the combatants are punching through marble counter tops like they're Agent Smith, so what's the big deal about a little ol' bullet catch? While we understand turning up the action for the movie version, it just seems wrong to fill a story about the all-too-human weaknesses of heroes with said heroes defying the laws of physics right and left.

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3. Where Did That Weird CGI Kitty Cat Come From?

BUBASTIS
 

Those unfamiliar with the Watchmen graphic novel may have been wondering where Matthew Goode's Ozymandias character got his hands on a bizarre CGI tiger sidekick in the final moments of the film. (Toon Town, maybe?) Particularly since the film never took even a second to explain what the heck the tiger was. (True story: A guy sitting next to us at the screening said, out loud, "When did Snagglepuss show up? What is this, Scooby Doo?") Those who have read Watchmen know that the weird kitty was actually Bubastis, Ozy's genetically-engineered pet lynx, but even those of us who knew and loved the long-eared quasi-feline thought he stuck out like a sore thumb. Again, it gets into the problem with overly literal adaptations, particularly of literary works with insanely vigilant fan bases. (Just ask the directors of the Harry Potter films.) Yes, it was nice to see Bubastis at the end, but, if you don't even have five seconds to loop in a line explaining what he is and why he's there, then he shouldn't even be in the film. He distracts rather than adds. It's particularly problematic because - SPOILER alert - the kitty gets a death scene, a scene NO ONE cares about because they've never been introduced to him. Yes, you want to please the hardcore fans by cramming in EVERYTHING, but, if you don't have time to have those details make sense within the confines of the story, why bother?

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2. Honestly. Did We Need That Much Glowing Blue Full-Frontal Nudity?

DR. MANHATTAN
 

First off, we here at MovieRetriever are not prudes and we actually think it's insane that the MPAA has historically had such a problem with nudity in films, particularly since they seem to have no problem whatsoever with violence in any shape or form. However, we'll admit, we got tired of seeing Dr. Manhattan's hypnotic blue junk pretty quickly. (The movie is called Watchmen, not "Watch Men," which, BTW, will be the title of the porn adaptation of the film.) For those who haven't read the comic, here's a fun fact - there's SIGNIFICANTLY more blue nudity in the movie than in the book. There are maybe, maybe 12 panels across Watchmen's entire 12-issue span where you can see Little Manhattan (and another 3 or 4 where it's a speck in the distance), and there's like 3,600 panels in the whole series. Be honest. All the nudity was distracting and a more than a little silly. If there's supposed to be this focus on reproducing the comic as closely as possible, we have no idea why Snyder didn't also reproduce artist Dave Gibbons' knowledge of when less is more.

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1. Why Are Some People Excusing Watchmen's Flaws on the Promise of a Director's Cut?

This one gets into the ugly side of expectations and how certain fans can't really deal with the fact that a film they were greatly anticipating might not live up to everything they were hoping for. We've ALL been there. It's called "Phantom Menace Syndrome." You spent months and months joyfully comparing the Pod Race scene with the speeder-bike sequence in Jedi and extolling the virtues of Darth Maul's lightsaber until, months later, you have that one moment of sobering clarity when you finally say out loud, "God, that sucked." But, hey, we realize that Watchmen didn't live up to a lot of people's expectations (us included), and we disappointed masses will just have to deal. Boo-frickin-hoo.

ZACK SNYDER

What we can't accept is how many people online are defending Watchmen against its negative reviews with bone-headed statements like "We're sure that, once Zack Snyder's director's cut is released, Watchmen will be heralded as the classic that we all know it is." WHAT? Wait, so Warner Brothers cut out 45 minutes (45 minutes that you haven't seen and can't vouch for) of the film that you just paid $10 to see (maybe more in IMAX) and you're alleging that, even though you're sure that we're wrong for not acknowledging the film's awesomeness in its current form, those allegedly-brilliant deleted scenes will finally open the eyes of the masses to Watchmen's true genius? Once again... WHAT? That's almost an admission that the person making that argument KNOWS, in their heart of hearts, that the film doesn't work. Only a few pictures have ever been truly saved by a director's cut - The Abyss, Blade Runner, Heaven's Gate, and... that's it - and, in all of those cases, it was totally 100% appropriate to rip on the theatrical release because, in the end, they didn't come together. Granted, maybe Snyder will really wow us with Watchmen: The Complete Version someday, but, until we actually see it, there's no reason to give the guy a free pass sight unseen.

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Posted by CoolerKing in Features, Lists - March 12, 2009 at 12:03 AM
 
I just have to

OneMore at Mar 19 2009 21:32:36
8. How can one really comment about the music? Like one of the others said the book wouldn't even have music. One persons trash another?s treasure. 7. Ok on Rorschach?s meat clever. Good comment 6. Yea the Nixon make up was bad. I hope they were trying to make a point or that was a big misstep. 5. We all know smoking is bad, but the preaching movies are annoying, unless the subject matter fits. It doesn't in this movie. You didn't mention the "Green" over tones. I believe, but am annoyed a bit too. 4. They seem more to just be quicker and stronger ... not especially "super powers" I think that struck a good balance, unless we all wanted to be board to death. 3. Good point. The cat was weird fit. 2. Come on. This is not a story board. It is a moving picture. If he is nude he is nude. Are we really going to say we should hamper the director, so that in a scene he needs to shoot only from the waist up or something? I guess there are that many homophobes in the world? Come on. 1. This one takes the cake though. To be at number one. Are you actually saying the number one reason the movie was bad was because the defenders are saying wait until the directors cut. This means the top reason it is bad is because of something out of its control? I guess that confuses me. Overall it has to be thumbs up.
Oh boy.

toomasio at Mar 16 2009 15:41:47
Snyder is the only director that could pull this off. You have to understand, any other director would have destroyed this movie. They would have made a sequel worthy spiderman. You can't nit pick the movie and call it the worst thing ever.
Good God

Kittyara726 at Mar 16 2009 02:16:46
Watchmen fanboys are worse than Twilight fangirls. It's a movie. Don't take it so seriously. Get out of your mom's basement and get a life. Losers.
missing the point

argelv at Mar 13 2009 11:35:09
It seems to me that you are advocating the very thing you said is wrong with the movie. its too close to the original material, but you complain when Snyder deviates from it. Basically, you seem to be missing this important fact: the movie was awesome! NO ONE IS ACCUSING WATCHMEN OF BEING THE GODFATHER. Look at the big picture; don't try to dissect the work. I had NEVER heard of Watchmen before I saw the first trailer, so my view is unbiased. The movie did not dissapoint; the soundtrack ROCKS! (although I agree with you about Hallelujah), Nixons face is obviously done on purpose to show how power has corrupted him from the inside out, if there was male nudity in the novel, it belongs in the movie, quit your whining!
Glad someone said it

HeyItsMau at Mar 13 2009 11:25:49
I can't for the life of me understand why this article is receiving such nasty feedback for making valid points in a respectful manner. Anyways, I wholeheartedly agreed with every point except with 5, which I could care less to ponder about. I would put the soundtrack at the top of the list for having the most uninspiring and absurd tracks ever (except for Dylan's tune which as was stated). Yeah, so what they were in the novel? The movie could have entered them as cameos or something. It's not like the novel said "cue in All Along the Watchtower". Also, I'm surprised more people didn't think Malin's acting was the blandest piece of work to hit the big screen in a while.
umm. Wrong. No.

ABKTech at Mar 13 2009 08:39:23
<center> The list should have gone: 1. Focused on the wrong aspects. ex. Fight scenes. Movie became to action based. 2. Adrian Viedt didn't question himself like he shoulda. 3. Dr. Manhattans personality was totally wrong. 4. You didn't get to experience how crazy Rorschach really was. Thats just 4 of the obvious things. Theres more but ill leave it that. Also, in the book where was way more full front blue man nudity.
Whine much?

peard at Mar 13 2009 06:48:20
Terrible list by an armchair Director. No I'm not a fanboy just a movie fan, and this movie was excellent.
after reading the comments

grammercy2 at Mar 13 2009 05:38:32
These people writing down here should be the article not this hack who "blogs".
one more thing

grammercy2 at Mar 13 2009 05:34:41
GCI cat thing was bad too (my 2nd thing ill concede) but it didnt ruin the movie and certainly didnt make it "MEH". What made it NOT amazing and only good was it lacked some real soul, you didnt feel for everyone else like you felt for dan or rorschach. You mentioned it in the intro so what the #!@%*# wasnt it one of you reasons "the cold war dread" that wouldve been a better reason than make-up on 2 characters, CGI gentiles, or #!@%*# cigarettes.
the ONE thing you got right

grammercy2 at Mar 13 2009 05:27:31
Your such a effing nit picker, smoking?! Really? Did your editor make you pick eight reasons specifically, dont think that jsut because it is in the middle of your article people will gloss over that BS. The "super powers" were fine, they had to be strong to fight crime, it wasnt like they could fly or shoot lasers. They were crime fighting vigilantes for godsakes, they had to have had an edge. The music was awesome, just because the comic wasnt scored doesnt mean we have to listen to generic symphony music the entire movie, it was a nice pleasant surprise that even people I know who did not like the movie enjoyed. The ONE THING you got right was that they down played ozymandias bullet catching too much and maybe maybe it was because the comdeian could punch a piece of wall off but the heroes being physically superior was the thing they did right in the movie (BTW fight style / choreography was awesome!). The moment ozymandias caught the bullet was a great scene in the comic and the movie didnt do it justice, that is the only thing ill concede to you. The blue #!@%*# thing, you should go #!@%*# yourself b/c honestly thats just looking for things to hate, not because its wrong, but because you want to be right and thats not journalism! (the makeup thing was distracting but it didnt #!@%*# ruin the movie #!@%*# YOU)
THANK YOU

foambullet at Mar 13 2009 02:41:22
Man, thank you for putting this out there. I was really frustrated with everyone defending the more ridiculous aspects of Watchmen, and you outlined all of my own problems with the movie. This is a great rebuttal to that God-awful "10 Things People Don't Seem to Get About Watchmen" garbage that's been floating around.
Wow

chuck at Mar 13 2009 02:06:52
So, to conclude: Those who can't do, teach. And those who can't do either try their hand at film criticism on movie retriever? I'm guessing that's the point of this -- do we even call it an article? -- opinion? I'd write a piece entitled "Eight Complaints about Eight Complaints about Watchmen That are Hard to Dismiss" but one would struggle to reduce that number to 8. Critique of your critique: 1/10. All #!@%*# and no balls. Please stop blogging. Your opinion is worthless.
Very Wrong

Nuggsy at Mar 12 2009 23:11:07
It certainly does feel as if you haven't read the source material and, frankly, I'm getting sick of having to explain to everyone the irony and exposition involved with using "Hallelujah" during the sex scene. Who gave you license to write about movies? Stick to World of Warcraft or football or whatever it is that you should be doing.
Blah

aloneonafriday at Mar 12 2009 20:01:28
Did you even read the book? The comments alone about playing all along the watchtower show that you didn't.
re: Music--read the graphic novel again

ratchada at Mar 12 2009 18:56:40
"But it was the awkward matching of lyrics to on-screen action that was really the worst. Playing "All Along the Watchtower" just so you can have the lyrics "Outside in the cold distance / A wild cat did growl / Two riders were approachin' / And the wind began to howl" match up to Nite Owl and Rorschach (two riders) making a crash-landing in harsh Antarctica (cold distance/wind howling) is so very lame." Well, then you have a problem with the graphic novel, not the movie version: that "lame matching up" is in the original.
cont.

doa766 at Mar 12 2009 18:54:46
4 no one smokes on teh dark knight or in slumdog millioarie 5 except for DR M no one has superpowers, they're all highly trained just like Nolan's Batman or Bourne 6 there many things about Ozimandias that are not spelled out ofr those unfamiliar with the GN, on the same line of thought it is never establish why he's the world's smartest man or why he can catch a bullit, the same with this, the movie covers a small potion of his life and you get glimpses to the rest (for ex: he's into cloning) 7 the nudity is the same as the novel all these "reasons" are sad excuses from someone who clearly doesn't get what's good about it and tried to bring nitpicks to the foreground to justify their lack of understanding
ALL THESE REASON ARE WRONG

doa766 at Mar 12 2009 18:49:09
1 music: most of the music played on the film it is mentioned on the GN, also the movie is an 80s period piece, is that so hard to undertand? 2 metal cleaver: what happens on the GN was already stolen by SAW and they had to come up with something else, what's important is what happens thamatically and that remains the same, also what happens on the GN is as violent and gory as the meat cleaver 3 NIxon is clearly meant to be taken as a cartoony character and his look reflected that, if he had been a regular Nixon it wouldn't have worked, too much reality cont.
regarding #7

spiderobert at Mar 12 2009 18:42:16
ok, i agree with most of this, but I can't help but point out that you complain about the movie sticking with the book too much, but yet when they add something like Rorschach beating a guy's head in with a meat cleaver, you complain about that also... I mean WTF! I think it fit his character better than simply burning down the house.
Watchmen is amazing

jbrig08 at Mar 12 2009 17:55:55
I have to disagree I think watchmen is very cool http://www.ucubd.com/Index.aspx?id=1144&cid=x01000091
Pay more attention

mike at Mar 12 2009 17:34:32
Regarding #3: There is a mention earlier in the film of Adrian dabbling in genetic engineering, which should be enough for any audience that's paying attention to explain her existence. Also, Bubastis is female. Adrian says, "I'm sorry, girl," before vaporizing her, which you'd think would make this fact pretty clear even if you weren't already aware. This doesn't necessarily mean that your point is invalid, but it certainly diminishes the strength of your argument when you get basic facts wrong.
Agree and Disagree

sinanatac at Mar 12 2009 17:24:12
Other than "Hallelujah" (which was quite bizarre) and perhaps "Sound of Silence", I think the musical score was perfect. "Unforgettable" made the first scene eerie and mind-blowing in terms of the manifestation of that scene from comic to screen. The Meat cleaver scene - definitely unnecessary. Nixon - agreed. As for the smoking one, I agree, but in the movie she presses it out of curiosity not by mistake, and then lies about it to Dreiberg by saying "I pressed the wrong button." I agree with the others, but not with 2. Who cares? It really didnt bother me at all, and it wasn't that excessive. I was annoyed by the idiots in the theater that burst into laughter every time Dr. Manhattan came on screen. It's not a big deal.
Maybe just confident?

DMarkwick at Mar 12 2009 15:58:35
Well, you might be right on the distraction theme, I cannot really judge on that because I wasn't distracted. (Nothing implied there, I simply wasn't :)) I think what the nudity + gore did was to separate the discussions more than anything else. I have to confess that I can't really fathom the fuss over the nudity, I didn't find it gratuitous but I did find it... I dunno... confident? That might not fit either, but something along those lines. To me the scenes were casual, which if you take into context the fact that Crudup was acting in a lightsuit was probably the case. He was performed as though nothing was amiss. I think that's worth bearing in mind.
Blue Wang Group

CoolerKing at Mar 12 2009 15:46:04
It's a stylistic departure because Gibbons only showed Dr. M full-frontal for maybe 15 panels of a 400+ page comic series with an average of 9 panels per page. Gibbons knew that less is more and, be honest, if there's a fully naked man in a room, you're not going to pay attention to much else. Not what's happening, not what's being said. That's not a prudish shame thing, that's just common sense. The thing is - it's not bad that we saw a man naked more than once. BUT you're fooling yourself if you think Snyder wasn't trying to shock or wasn't aware that audiences wouldn't focus on the wang. He was trying to push a button - that's why he ramped up the gore so much too - and the question is "What did that button pushing accomplish?" There's been ENDLESS commentary on the blue wang (and I'm a part of that), but barely any on what Dr. M was saying or doing. And that's Snyder's fault.
Nude blue man - stylisation?

DMarkwick at Mar 12 2009 15:02:08
Stylistic departure from Gibbons' design? Naked blue man is a naked blue man, in what way does the stylisation depart? If you mean screentime, then I guess I cannot answer that one, he was onscreen for the amount of time he was onscreen. I think that having the nudity "rationed" would have the opposite effect, that it would simply conform to every other male nude scene in cinema. i.e. you're allowed only so much, then it must stop. There is a whole lot more going on with DM than his #!@%*#, did anyone even notice his skin, & what was going on underneath & around him?
The thing about accurate...

CoolerKing at Mar 12 2009 12:39:24
One other point I disagree on - I actually think Snyder did a poor job of making the movie an accurate representation of the book. Did he reenact scene after scene as if he was showing us a slideshow of the comic? YES. But did he accurately reproduce the emotional impact, tension, drama, and emphasis on character of Alan Moore's original. NO. Yeah, it LOOKS like Watchmen, but that's all window dressing.
 
 
 
 
 
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